The Torah says God created the world. It never says God created it from nothing.
The Torah begins with perhaps its most famous words: בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים — “In the beginning, God created.” But does bara mean creating something from nothing—yesh me’ayin? Forming something from pre-existing matter? Bringing order out of chaos? Or separating and setting boundaries?
In this episode of Madlik Disruptive Torah, Geoffrey Stern and Rabbi Adam Mintz use Parshat Bereshit to follow one of the great conversations in the history of ideas.
We begin with Ramban and Ibn Ezra and then travel from the Book of Maccabees and Philo to Plato, Aristotle and Maimonides. Guided by the remarkable Harvard scholar and Slabodka alumnus Harry Austryn Wolfson, we discover how Plotinus introduced the idea of emanation, how the Muslim philosopher al-Fārābī and the Jewish philosopher Hasdai Crescas used it to rethink creation, and how Jewish mysticism transformed these philosophical puzzles into tzimtzum and the idea that God “renews in His goodness, each day, continuously, the work of creation.”
Finally we arrive at the “God-intoxicated” Baruch Spinoza: “Whatever is, is in God, and nothing can be or be conceived without God.” If the human mind is part of the infinite intellect of God, perhaps we are living in God’s mind—and God’s mind is in us.
Were the medieval philosophers simply counting angels on the head of a pin? Or is there enduring value in watching great minds wrestle with difficult questions—even when the puzzles themselves may be of their own making?
From creation ex nihilo to continuous creation, from Bereshit to Spinoza, this is an exploration of God, the world, and ultimately what it means for us to create.
Key Takeaways
- The Torah says God created. It doesn’t necessarily say God created something from nothing.
Ramban makes yesh me’ayin a fundamental principle of Judaism, but Ibn Ezra challenges the assumption that bara means creation ex nihilo at all. It can mean forming, cutting, or setting boundaries. The philosophical problem may be bigger than the biblical one.
- Great ideas are created when traditions collide.
The encounter between Torah and Greek philosophy forced Jewish, Christian, and Muslim thinkers to rethink what creation means. From Philo and Maimonides through Plotinus, al-Fārābī and Crescas, creation evolves from a single event into ideas of emanation, dependence and ultimately continuous creation.
- Maybe creation is not something God did. Maybe creation is something God does—and something we participate in.
Kabbalah imagines creation through tzimtzum, making room for something else. Hasidism imagines the world being renewed continually. And Spinoza takes the argument to its radical conclusion: “Whatever is, is in God”; the human mind is part of God’s infinite intellect. Creation becomes not simply a theory about how the universe began, but a way of thinking about God, ourselves, and what it means for us to create.
Timestamps
00:00 What Does “Bara” Really Mean?
02:00 Ramban on Creation Ex Nihilo
05:00 Ibn Ezra: Setting Boundaries
09:00 The Mediaeval Debates
11:00 Hellenism and the Book of Maccabees
12:00 Philo of Alexandria
15:00 Maimonides’ Three Theories of Creation
22:00 Harry Wolfson on Divine Emanation
29:00 Luria’s Kabbalah and Spinoza’s God
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Torah begins with what might be the most famous sentence ever written.
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Bereshit bara Elohim, in the beginning God created.
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But what exactly does bara created mean?
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Does it mean creating something from nothing, yesh me’ayin?
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Does it mean forming something from pre-existing matter?
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Does it mean bringing order out of chaos?
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Does it mean separating and distinguishing?
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And is creation something that happened once at the beginning of time?
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Or is the world being created at every moment?
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And finally, is creation limited to God?
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These may sound like questions for medieval philosophers, the Jewish version of asking how
many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
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But as we’re going to discover, the way you answer them changes not only how you
understand the first verse of the Torah, it changes how you understand God, the world, and
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what it means for any of us to create.
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My name is Geoffrey Stern, and at Madlik we light a spark or shed some light on a Jewish
text or tradition.
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This week we read Parshat Bereshit, the very first parsha of the Torah.
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Join us as we travel from Genesis to Plato and Aristotle from Plotinus to Maimonides, Al
Farabi and Crescas from the Kabbalah and the Tanya, all the way to that great Jewish
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heretic and God-intoxicated man, Baruch Spinoza.
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And so, what does it mean to create?
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Well, that’s a mouthful.
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We’re gonna have to talk like New Yorkers really quickly today.
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Okay, I mean the word bara is interesting.
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Good, let’s go.
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Let’s start.
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So, you know, last week we focused on where was God.
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but this week we’re gonna focus on the world, the creation itself.
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And if you recall last week, Rashi and Ibn Ezra both favored a translation which was When
God was creating, which kind of took the focus over where this all started.
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But we’re gonna follow a bunch of commentators and philosophers.
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Who say, no, the way you heard it the first time, “In the beginning” was the right way.
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And therefore it begs the question: what was the beginning?
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What happened?
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And to start that, we’re gonna start with Ramban; Nachmanides, who says as follows: In the
beginning, God created.
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It was indeed very necessary to begin the Torah with the chapter of In the Beginning God
Created, for this is the root of faith.
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And he who does not believe in this and thinks the world was eternal denies the essential
principle of the Judaic religion and has no Torah at all.
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He says, now listen to the correct and clear explanation of the verse in its simplicity.
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The Holy One, blessed be he, created all things from absolute nonexistence.
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Now we have no expression in the sacred language in lashon kodesh for bringing forth
something from nothing.
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Other than the word bara, created.
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Everything that exists under the sun or above was not made from nonexistence at the
outset.
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Instead, he brought forth from total and absolute nothing, a very thin substance devoid
of corporeality, but having a power of potency.
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Fit to assume form and to proceed from the potentiality into reality.
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This was the primary matter created by God.
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It is called by the Greeks hyly; matter.
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After the hhyly, he did not create anything, but he formed and made things with it.
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So it’s an interesting thing.
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First of all, we learned from the Ramban, and I think this is how I kind of grew up.
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That yesh me’ayin creation ex nihilo was almost a major tenet of our religion.
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Correct.
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That you have to believe in this miracle that God created something from nothing.
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Now, what but what’s interesting is he adds an additional piece, and that’s what the word
bara means.
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You started by saying that bara the word bara is so significant.
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bara means yesh me’ayin creation ex nihilo.
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And what he also does is he adds a step.
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So he says, What did God create ex nihilo?
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We don’t have a word for this in Hebrew, only in Greek.
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He created this kind of thin substance devoid of corporeality, but having the
potential for all of matter.
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And then he says, bara possibly also can mean formed and made things with it.
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So you create the Play-Doh, and then from the Play-Doh you create everything that follows.
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So it does seem that there is a sensitivity, Rabbi, to kind of breaching this gulf between
nothing and something.
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And he does it in a way that we’ll see that Plato might have done, at least according to
the rabbinic understanding, was that he created this intermediary substance.
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And yes, you’re correct that bara then becomes.
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creating something from nothing, but he also forms into it, making things with it.
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So the Ibn Ezra says as follows.
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He says, Rov Hamforshim Amu Shahabriya Lahoze yesh me’ayin.
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He says most of the commentaries say that it means ex nihilo.
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He uses this word yeshme ayan, which is kind of also very interesting.
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It’s a very simple way of saying this.
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Yesh means yesh li bbayit, yeshli kadur.
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I have something, yesh and me’ayin, ayin means nothing.
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So creating something from nothing.
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But
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The Ibn Ezra says the meaning of bara is to cut or to set a boundary.
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if you recall, again, we did an episode three, two years ago about Splitting The
Adam, where he focused on this concept of mavdil.
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He divides between light and darkness, between the water and the earth.
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So even in bara, there are those commentaries like
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the Ibn Ezra who says it is to create a boundary.
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Now, the Ibn Ezra actually comes off and says that bara does NOT mean something from
nothing, because he brings a bunch of different verses where the word bara is used and it
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was not something from nothing.
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So he brings, for instance, Genesis 1: 21, that God created the sea monsters.
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And three times the word is used in one verse, where God created man in his own image, in
the image of God created Bara, male and female, he created him.
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So there clearly God was taking from the
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Biological building-blocks of the universe and creating man.
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He had created the animals.
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So Ibn Ezra is making a case that no, it doesn’t have to be something from nothing.
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But really, the only reason we quote this, and I would say even modern scholars also
believe that the original meaning has more to do with shaping things, with
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dividing things, they quote.
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verses like in Psalms where it says, Fashion a pure heart for me, O God, create in me a
steadfast spirit.
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So the word create can mean pretty much like you and I use it in the nomenclature.
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You know, we create something.
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Do we have to create it out of nothing?
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This radical leap?
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Not so much.
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But we are going to spend most of the time today.
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trying to just determine number one where this idea came from, and then to see how
Jewish, non-Jewish, and Jewish thinkers who were influenced by the non-Jewish world
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kind of navigated what it means, how it affects us, how we can I would say
square the circle in terms of philosophy and
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What we read in the Bible.
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but this is so we are going less in terms of trying to understand the exact text
because I think the consensus is for many that the text doesn’t even talk or care about,
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and that was the purpose of yes, last week’s discussion.
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It’s not interested in these issues of cosmology.
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Here we are now going.
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Diving deep into medieval Jewish and general philosophy, where we ask all of these
questions that could cross a rabbi’s eye, Diddle D, Diddle Do.
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I think the way I would say it in Gemara language, you would say there are two issues.
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One is what the word bara means.
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That’s a disagreement between Ramban and Ibn Ezra.
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Ramban says bara means creation ex nihlo.
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Ibn Ezra says the word bara doesn’t necessarily mean creation, Yesh M’Ayin, because there
are many, there are many examples where the word bara means yesh M’Yesh, means something
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from something.
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Then what you’re pointing out is there’s a second issue, and that is what you say the
Medieval issue.
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And that is what did creation look like?
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What actually happened?
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And I would even add to that, the other issue is why does it matter?
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Why does Ramban say that this is a major tenet of our faith?
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You know, why is it so important?
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So if we go to the sources, believe it or not, I have not be successfully found
in any early sources in the Mishnah, in the Talmud, any reference to this so-called tenant
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of faith that the world was created from nothing.
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The earliest seems to be in the book of Maccabees, which isn’t even included.
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In our canon.
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And I don’t actually believe we have it in Hebrew.
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We probably have it only in Greek.
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But in any case, in the book of Maccabees II, 7:33, it says, and it’s a mother talking to
her children.
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I ask you, child, to look at heaven and earth, see everything that is in them, and know
that God made these things from nothing and created humankind in the same way.
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So it’s striking that this is the first reference.
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It’s also striking that it is written probably in Greek first.
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And so what it does is it raises a flag, Rabbi.
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It says that probably this whole issue came up when the Jews were confronted with
Hellenism.
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And all of a sudden they had to start thinking about these issues.
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A hundred years after
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the book of Maccabees, we have Philo of Alexandria, the great Philo.
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And he says, Moses, who had early reached the very summits of philosophy.
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So now we’re already dipped in the pond.
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Now we’re saying that Moses not only was a Hacham, not only was he a Torah scholar, not
only was he a Navi, but he was “epis” a philosopher.
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And now, once he’s a philosopher, we have to start squaring the circle.
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And he says that he was well aware that it is indispensable that in all existing things
there must be an active cause and a passive subject, and that the active cause is the
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intellect of the universe.
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So now we have Philo kind of feeding us.
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the thought of the day, which is that this active cause therefore became molded and
molded onto our God.
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And the passive subject is the universe.
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It is interesting.
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It’s called the intellect of the universe.
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That’s going to be of interest when we get all the way to the end of the story at
Spinoza.
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The passive subject is sometimes inanimate and incapable of motion by any intrinsic power
of its own, but having been set in motion and fashioned and endowed with the life of by
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the intellect, became transformed into that most perfect work, this world.
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So what he sees is a creator, a God who gives inanimate objects motion, dynamism, life,
if you will.
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And then, as I said before.
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The other part of the question is why?
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Why is this so important?
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So Nachmanides already said it’s a tenet of our faith.
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What does Philo do?
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He says, because this is important, because these qualities tend to produce piety, namely
providence.
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The reason proves that the Father and Creator has care for that which he has created.
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If you don’t have a universe and a world that is created by God, you don’t have a caring
God.
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For a father is anxious for the life of his children, and the workman aims at the duration
of his works, and he employs every device imaginable to ward off everything that is
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pernicious or injurious.
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This is clay in the hands of the potter.
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It’s not only paternal, it’s when you create something, you kind of own it.
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You have an association with it.
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and he says the same thing is with the created worth.
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So Philo not only says I wanna put this on strong philosophical ground, but he also
says it’s important to have a God who creates, because without that there’s no providence.
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And we’re gonna hear that from a few of our thinkers.
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Maimonides in the Guide lays out what he believes to be three different perspectives on
this.
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He says the first is ours, which is those who follow the law of Moses, our teacher, hold
that the whole universe, everything except God, has been brought by him into existence out
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of non-existence.
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In the beginning, God alone existed, and nothing else, neither angels nor spheres, nor the
things that are constrained within the spheres existed.
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He then produced them from nothing, all existing things such as they are by his will and
desire.
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And Maimonides again goes on echoing the other thinkers.
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This is the first theory, and it is undoubtedly a fundamental principle of the law of our
teachers, Moses.
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It is next in importance to the principle of God’s unity.
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Do not follow any other theory and
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Abraham, our father, was the first that taught it after he had established it by
philosophical means.
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So again, they are doubling down on this, even though you don’t necessarily have to read
it into the verse.
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It could be while God was creating and not Bing Bang from the creation of the beginning.
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He says it’s a fundamental principle.
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The second theory, and this is going to echo a little bit of what Ramban said, is the
theory of Plato.
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and there he created from a preexisting substance.
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if you recall, Nachmanides actually used a Greek word.
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And he said that this is a theory of all philosophers whose opinion and works are known to
us in this.
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It is impossible to assume that God produced anything from nothing or that he reduces
anything to nothing.
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That is to say, it is impossible that an object consisting of matter and form.
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Should be produced when that matter is absolutely absent.
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So I don’t know, Rabbi.
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To me, the whole issue is you they’re trying to make the leap.
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And a lot of them say, let’s take small steps.
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And if you slice it and dice it, somehow it becomes more palpable.
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And what he is saying is: on the one hand, while it’s impossible to say something
from nothing, you can do something that has the potential.
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For something, but isn’t quite yet something.
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And so you kind of have a solution.
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he says the people to say that God can produce a thing from nothing.
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So here’s an interesting argument.
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He says the reason why they argue you can’t have God produce something from nothing, it’s
like saying two plus two equals five.
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And it’s like saying a triangle has four sides.
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It just doesn’t fit into it.
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Nothing by definition.
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Nothing by definition means no thing.
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But again, at least Maimonides says this is an acceptable position.
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And Aristotle, who normally is Maimonides’ go-to guy, in this case believes that the earth
is eternal, that everything is eternal, that matter doesn’t change, and therefore there
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is stasis.
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And so he says.
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this is a position that the universe is in totality, never been different, nor will
it ever be.
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And that’s the three positions.
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He goes on to say that the foundation of our religion has to be that there is a God
who cares, who is involved.
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He said we should necessarily be in opposition to the foundations of our religion to
believe in the eternity of the universe, because it would reject all hope and fears
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derived from Scripture.
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In other words, you can’t punish somebody.
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You can’t have God cannot have any control over us if everything is eternal.
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Accepting the creation, we find that miracles are possible, that revelation is possible.
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And that every difficulty in this question is removed.
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We might be asked: why has God inspired a certain person and not another?
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Why has he revealed the law to one another?
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Once you promise you predicate that God can create the world, he can do anything.
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And he or she can have desires and wishes and commands over us.
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And that’s again why Maimonides feels that believing in this is so important.
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And what he says is fascinating.
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He says, owing to the absence of all proof, we reject the theory of the eternity of the
universe.
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So what he says is, you can’t prove any of these.
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So as long as we can’t prove any of these, it’s best to have a theory.
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That guides us and makes the world meaningful and makes our Torah meaningful and makes
revelation and miracles meaningful.
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It’s in a sense, it’s kind of interesting because it’s saying that maybe there are
different parallel paths between belief and science.
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But what he’s definitely saying is until science can prove something, we have the option
of picking the theory that fits our mold best.
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Let me just say, I mean, what you’re saying, of course, is fascinating.
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Let me just take a step back to say, you know, it’s interesting that Maimonides in the
Guide quotes Plato and Aristotle.
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We’ve got to take that for granted now.
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But today, if the greatest rabbi in the world quoted Plato and Aristotle, you’d wonder,
right, about whether they really were the greatest rabbi of you know of all time.
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And Maimonides quotes Plato and Aristotle, and it’s totally.
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That’s part of his understanding of what creation is all about.
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So even that is interesting that Maimonides tries to understand and he appreciates the fact that the understanding about what the world is and how it came up
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came how it came about, that sometimes the non-Jews have you know have
insight that the Jews never had.
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I couldn’t agree more.
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I mean, in a sense, he was not quoting other religious thinkers.
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He’s quoting what he believes to be the best practices of the day in terms of
cosmology, understanding the world.
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But I think what you’re saying is an amazing segue to where I want to go.
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Because I want to introduce our listeners to a scholar who has made a great impression on
me.
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his name is Harry Wolfson.
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And he basically, as you say rabbi, you look at the modern rabbis, he came out of the
Slobotka yeshiva.
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And then he became the head of the first Judaic Studies program
in the United States at Harvard.
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and the person who followed him was Isidore Twersky, who I took a course from.
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And he says that
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Wolfson heard the last Shiur of Yitzhak Blazer, who was a Mussurnik who studied under Rabbi
Yisrael Salanter.
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And then he went on to write, talk about books and listening and learning and
dissecting the works of the non-Jew.
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basically what Wolfson did is he took Philo as the beginning of medieval philosophy, and
he took Spinoza as the end of medieval philosophy, and he studied in between the church
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fathers, the Kalam, which was the Islamic school of philosophy, and he did it all as a
Talmud Hacham.
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He learnt all of the languages necessary, Greek and Arabic.
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and what he basically argued.
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was that the medieval philosophy began with the premise that philosophy which
knew not scripture.
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So if you look at Aristotle and Plato, they didn’t know anything about Judaism or
revelation.
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So it starts with Philo introducing Aristotle and Plato and us to
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Plato and Aristotle, and it ends with a philosophy which tries to free us from scripture.
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So it starts with trying to bring the Torah into the world of Greek philosophy, and it
ends with Spinoza, according to Wolfson, where we try to leave the world of scripture and
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revelation and philosophy.
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And the most exciting thing that he tracks is the introduction of somebody called
Plotinus.
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And Plotinus, if you know anything about Plato, Plato believed in forms.
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So there was a form of a table up in the Himmel; in the shamayam
in the heavens, just like we have a Mikdash Sel Ma’ala and a mikdash shel mata, and
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then down below was a physical parallel of that.
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Plotinus did something amazing.
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He says that not only are there pure images and forms of everything that ends up being
physical in the theoretical world, but that is a correlation and
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relationship between them.
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So that if you will, that if there is a theory or an ideal of sun, there is a
correspondence not only to a real sun.
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But that idea of the sun actually maintains and powers and emanates power to the sun.
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So what he does is it is now conceived as being eternally generated or emanated from the
essence of God.
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And this was an amazingly exciting and evocative idea.
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That now we can have something in the heaven, something in the world of theoretics that
could actually have an impact, an ongoing impact on the world, the created world.
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And so creation almost becomes something that happens on an ongoing basis.
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It’s something that’s regular.
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And so he traces this through all of the medieval philosophers.
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And yes, Rabbi, he goes.
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To the church fathers, he finds someone called John Scotus Erigena, who maintains that
when we say creation from nothing, when we say creatio ex nihilo, nothing is God.
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And he says it beautifully the nothing from which the world was created means God, to whom
alone may be applied the negation of all that can be spoken or thought of.
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So since God is the one that has no physical attributes, he is nothing and the world
emanates from him.
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Then we go to al-Fārābī, who was a Muslim philosopher.
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by the way, when Maimonides talked to Ibn Tibon to translate the Mora Nevuchim, he says
if you want to go to look at somebody who you can use as a guide.
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Go to al-Fārābī.
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he really looked up to this al-Fārābī.
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he regarded him, and many of the philosophers regarded him as the second teacher,
second to Aristotle.
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So we’re living in a world where Christian and Jewish and Muslim philosophers are
talking one.
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to the other, whether physically or through their writings.
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And al-Fārābī was the first one to say that this idea of Plotinus did not contradict
creation ex nielo, creation Yesh Me’Ayin.
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Because if God actually can emanate the world, on the one hand, you can say that it was
created from nothing, from God or from these emanations.
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but on the other hand, it can jive with Greek philosophy.
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So this was an amazing bridge that they came up with.
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And later a thinker named Hasdai Crescas picked up on the al-Fārābī and was able to say,
actually, he gave it like a Hershey.
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He says, You can now believe in emanation.
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So, what is emanation?
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Emanation, to make it very simple, is like if you have a candle of light.
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And it gives me light, the light that I get does not detract from the candle.
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The sun can give light, and we can get light from the sun without it detracting.
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So, in that sense, you can have the power of God and God’s essence emanating on the world
without it detracting or impugning God Himself or herself with physicality.
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It was the perfect kind of highway.
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but what I want to do in the time that remains is talk about what the ramifications of
these medieval scholars discussing this stuff were.
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And one of them is something that we know from the Kabbalah.
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We know in the Kabbalah there was a school of Isaac Loria where he talked about God
emanating himself in a unique way.
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In the Sefer Etz Chaim, which is Chaim Vital, giving the notes, the transcript of the
discussions of Isaac Luria, he says, know that before the emanation were emanated and the
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creation were created, there was a supernatural light that filled all of existence.
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And he goes, and then what happened is, behold, God contracted himself, may he be blessed,
in the middle point, precisely at the point where his light was in its most absolute
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stage.
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So what
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getting back to this concept of nothing, instead of emanating out, God was able to
contract in and give space for something.
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but what does that do to us in terms of creativity?
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Think of the pedagogic lesson there, that you can give, you can create the next generation
by pulling back.
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the Tanya, the and the Hasidim looked at our prayer book and says.
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we say in the prayer book every every day we continuously, the work of
creation is renewed. הַמְ֒חַדֵּשׁ בְּטוּבוֹ בְּכָל־יוֹם תָּמִיד מַעֲשֵׂה בְרֵאשִׁית
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In the Tanya, he uses our philosophical language of efes mamesh, of nothing, to say that
God, on a regular daily basis, is responsible for the world staying alive.
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There is no disconnect.
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Between the world and God.
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We are constantly emanated from God.
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God re-creates, means it’s a set.
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We get a new start every morning.
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That’s by the way, the reason we watch Negel wasser, right?
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It’s a new start every morning.
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And to take it to the farthest extreme, which is where Wolfson goes, is then Spinoza comes
about.
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And I had never realized Spinoza was excommunicated by the Amsterdam community at age, I
think it was 23.
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It’s absolutely crazy.
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But this is what Spinoza said.
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Spinoza said, you know, this emanation thing, you’re just kicking the can down the road.
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There is no difference between God and that which is created.
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Whatever is in God, and nothing can be or be conceived without God.
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God is the immanent, not the transitive cause of all things.
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So he understands there are things, but God is all of those things.
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The human mind is a part of the infinite intellect of God.
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There is also in God an idea of the human mind.
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So all of a sudden, you can understand why a great German romantic poet said that Spinoza
was a Gott-trunkener Mensch
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Spinoza is a God-intoxicated man because he saw everything as God.
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He said, You’re making a mistake.
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Don’t make the distinction.
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If you go to the extreme of emanation or tzimtzum, it is ultimately that God is the mind of
everything.
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We are living in God’s mind, and God’s mind is in us.
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And this, according to Wolfson, was the beginning of modern philosophy.
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And so it’s a wonderful trip.
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But it all started because they decided they had to reconcile Greek philosophy with
Judaism, some people call that approach as making philosophy
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the handmaiden of religion.
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But I look at it in terms of look at all this creative thinking that it created that gives
us new modalities for thinking about creation itself.
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how we create and who we are.
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I think it’s wonderful.
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Amazing.
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This is really, really good.
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What a good way to start this year in the Torah.
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Welcome to Parshat Bereshit everybody.
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Shabbat Shalom, welcome to Parshat Bereshit.
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And next week we’ll start with Noah.
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See you all there.
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So here’s my question for you.
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Were we just counting angels on the head of a pin today?
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Or is there something valuable about watching great minds wrestle with difficult
questions, even when those questions may be problems of their own making?
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I’d love to hear from you.
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Look forward to your comments.
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