Raise Your Hand

parshat vaera – exodus 6

Have you ever wondered why we don’t raise our hands during prayer in Judaism? It’s a question that might seem trivial at first, but as we explored in our latest Madlik episode, it opens up a fascinating world of gesture, ritual, and cultural evolution.

As I sat watching the presidential inauguration, I couldn’t help but notice the raised hand during the oath of office. This simple gesture, so commonplace in our civic life, is surprisingly absent from our religious practice. Why is that? And what can we learn from the rich tradition of hand gestures in our biblical texts?

The Power of Non-Verbal Communication

In our conversation with Rabbi Adam Mintz, we delved into the surprising prevalence of hand gestures in the Torah. Did you know that the Hebrew Bible has the richest source of gesture phrases of any ancient Near Eastern religion or literature? It’s true! From Aaron lifting his rod to God’s promise of redemption with an outstretched arm, our sacred texts are filled with powerful non-verbal communication.

But here’s the kicker: despite this rich heritage, hand gestures are virtually non-existent in modern Jewish ritual and prayer. It’s a stark contrast that begs the question: what happened?

Sefaria Source Sheet: https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/618903

Transcript:

Welcome to Madlik.  My name is Geoffrey Stern and at Madlik we light a spark or shed some light on a Jewish Text or Tradition.  Along with Rabbi Adam Mintz we host Madlik Disruptive Torah on your favorite podcast platform and now on YouTube. This week’s Torah portion is Parshat Vaera … and this week we had a president raise his hand and recite the oath of office…. Which is a good excuse to note that there’s a lot of hand motions and sign language in Exodus. Aaron lifts up his rod, he extends his hand against the waters of Egypt and God promises to redeem the Israelites with an outstretched arm. Scholars have noted that the Torah has the richest source of gesture phrases of any ancient Near Eastern religion or literature. The Psalms are full of supplications that include the gesture of raising one’s hands and most importantly, God raises His celestial hand and pledges to bring the Israelites into the land of Israel. So, what’s the significance of hand gestures in the Torah and why virtually non-existent in Jewish ritual and prayer? So join us for “Raise your Hand”.

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So, Rabbi, did you have a

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chance to watch the inauguration?

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Adam Mintz: I sure did. I’m a patriotic American. I would

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never miss the inauguration. I love the pomp and

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ceremony of America.

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Geoffrey Stern: So I have to admit I, I was learning Torah, I was

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preparing for the podcast. But did, did he raise

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his hand? Did he have one hand on the Bible?

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Adam Mintz: And I don’t know the story, but I saw that Mrs.

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Trump was carrying an old Bible, so there must be

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some story to that Bible that they used.

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Geoffrey Stern: Fantastic. Well, it is a great segue and it does

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make the podcast timely. So as I said, I looked

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up and I found a really long, I think it was a

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PhD thesis called Ritual Gestures of Lifting,

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Extending and Clasping the Hands in Northwest

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Semitic Literature and Iconography. And it was

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published in 2014 by David Michael Calabro. I

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think he’s a Mormon and I think the way he talks

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is. There’s a big department in. There are almost

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two schools of nonverbal gestures in the

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Bible, and one of them is at this Mormon

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University. But as I said in the intro, he says

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the Hebrew Bible has by far the richest source of

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gesture phrases in Northwest Semitic language.

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Several of these gestures phrases have more than

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10 occurrences, and most phrases either have more

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than one occurrence or are closely related to

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another phrase with more than one occurrence, as

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opposed to the Ugaritic, Aramaic and Phoenician

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inscriptions that have a given gesture phrase

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typically occurs only once or at best a few

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times. I had never kind of realized that. And I

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think as we kind of survey, especially Psalms,

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but all of Tanakh and certainly the Exodus story,

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there’s a lot of gesturing. And Rabbi, I have

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covered this or we have covered this in a

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previous podcast, and you know that I have an

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affinity for motion within prayer. And I was at

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the Hebrew University and I telling them about my

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kind of interest in this subject and they gave me

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this book. And if you can notice on it, it has

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two hands pointing up and it’s called Nonverbal

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Language of Jewish Prayer by Uri Ehrlich from

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Hebrew University. It starts with “Kol atsmotay.

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Tomarna” we say that every Shabbat with all my bones

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will I Geoffrey.

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Adam Mintz: I have the Hebrew edition of that book.

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Geoffrey Stern: Oh, I have it. Yeah. I’ve only in Hebrew.

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Adam Mintz: Oh, it’s only in Hebrew. I was okay.

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Geoffrey Stern: Yeah, I wish, I wish it was English. So I. I do

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have a thing because I have to admit, I do yoga

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once in a while when. I love this idea of raising

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your hands when a whole crowd raises their hands.

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You might do it during a concert. You. I just

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feel that our, the language of our body actually

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has a strong impact on our thinking, thoughts and

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our psychology. And I think that for whatever

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reason, maybe we’ll come up with some reasons.

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Today it’s been muted in Judaism, in our

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religion. But today, before we get there, we’re

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going to look at where it appears in our parasha

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in this book of call. Hasapha halo mililiot, shel

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hatfila, the language without words of our

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prayers. He does say that even though he has two

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hands on the cover, the chapter on hands is rather

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short. And he says, and I’ve translated as best I

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can, when he talks about hands, he says,

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nevertheless, when we approach this task of

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dedicating a chapter to hand gestures and Jewish

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prayer, we are confronted with an interesting

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reality. The existing of clasping hands and hand

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gestures in general, which are a constant in

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scriptural prayer and good measure, even after

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scripture, disappear completely. From the sources

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of the Mishnaic and Talmudic period, there is

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nothing in the Law / Halacha or anecdotal evidence.

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There’s only one Talmudic source. He claims, if

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you look in our source sheet, it is in Shabbat

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10a. And it’s an innocuous reference. Rava

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talking about how he would pray. He would remove

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his cloak and clasp his hands and pray.. u’Kaphar

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Yadeha. It goes a little bit further and seems to

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imply that Rav Kahana said when there is

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suffering in the world, he would remove his cloak

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and clasp his hands and pray. And he said that he

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would be as a slave before his master. However,

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when there is peace in the world, he would dress

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and cover himself and wrap himself. No clasping

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of the hands. So it was literally a language and

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I guess it was supplication. I have to say, in

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the modern world of emojis. And I put the emoji

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of. Thank you, religious Jews, non religious

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Jews, we all have kind of accepted this. I would

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venture to guess, Rabbi, that in our youth we

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would say that’s a Christian symbol. We sure

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would. Yeah.

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Adam Mintz: The emoji made that universal.

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Geoffrey Stern: It made it acceptable. So maybe there could be

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more things that can be acceptable. Now, of

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course, the only other I say exception to halacha

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regarding prayers would be the duchening, the

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priestly blessing, which again, aren’t very

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many, if any sources in the Talmud or in the

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Mishnah. But sure enough, in the Shulchan Orech,

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when it gets to the rules of the kohanim blessing

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the congregation, they have that famous iconic

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raising of the two hands in the way that a kohen

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does. But again, Rabbi, it is kind of interesting

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that hand motions are not that significant within

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ritual practical Judaism. What’s your feeling

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about that?

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Adam Mintz: It’s for sure true. Now we’re talking about the

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parasha and of course, I’m sure you’ll talk about

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this. The firsthand gesture we have is when

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Avraham says to his slave, Simna yadcha tachat

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Yirechi. Right. It goes all the way back to the

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beginning of the Torah, where somehow the hand

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gesture was the ultimate oath and promise that he

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gave him.

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Geoffrey Stern: So I think, you know, great for mentioning that.

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And I think the knee jerk reaction would be when

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you raise your hand as the president did today,

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you are making an oath, you bring a pasuk and an

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incident that I’m not quite referencing, I’m

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focused on raising the hand. But you’re right up

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there.

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Adam Mintz: I mean, That’s a technicality. That he happens to

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put his hand underneath the leg of Avraham. So

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rather than raising his hand, he actually lowered

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his hand. But the idea is the same. Like you

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said, it’s a motion that’s taken as an oath.

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Geoffrey Stern: Actually, I think we need to stand corrected. The

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president raised one hand and the.

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Adam Mintz: Other hand goes on the Bible.

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Geoffrey Stern: The Bible. And I think what you’re referencing is

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the other hand. In other words, that it went on

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the bris milah. You’re putting it on something

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tangible and then you raise your hand. So I think

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it’s two sides to the same.

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Adam Mintz: That’s great. Okay, that’s a good devar Torah.

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Geoffrey Stern: So in Exodus 6:8, that’s our parasha, God says,

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I will bring you into the land which I swore.

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That’s the translation. The Hebrew is nasiti et

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yadi, which I raised my hand to give to Abraham,

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Isaac and Jacob, and I will give it to you for a

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possession. Rashi says, I have lifted up my hand.

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I have lifted it up to swear by my throne. So

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again, I think we already have those two

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ingredients. On the one hand, you’re lifting up

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the hand and it’s an oath. And the second, it’s

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like the kise’ ha kavod al Qaisia. God is

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allegorically kiviyachol, putting his other hand

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on something tangible. Here’s something

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interesting, rabbi. In Numbers 14:30, it says, if

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any of you should enter the land over which I

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lifted my hand in an oath to have you dwell in

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it. Except for Kaleb son of Yepuna, and Joshua

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son of Nun. This is after the sin of the

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messengers. But I found in a Source that whenever

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it says about God that he raises up his hand,

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it’s in reference to promising the land of Israel

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to the people of Israel. And so in a sense, what

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we have is the raising of the hand and the

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pointing or the emphasis on that tangible land of

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Israel. That’s kind of interesting, right?

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Adam Mintz: Well, I mean, the Ibn Ezra that you’re going to

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read in a second, it’s the idea of raising your

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hand to God. It’s a recognition of God’s power. I

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don’t know if that’s exactly why the president

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raises his hand.

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Geoffrey Stern: We don’t know, first of all, what was in the mind

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of this president for sure. But I think if you

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Google, if you Google and you look at Wikipedia,

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there are some references to the Bible. There’s a

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whole lot of references to Roman, to Greek, to

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other ancient sources. I would kind of argue and

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Ibn Ezra says the obvious, that this is

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figurative. This is derech mashal. No one believes that God has

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a literal hand. But I think the other way of

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saying this is since Lo Debra Torah Ela

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Balashan B’nai Adam, that God uses allegories,

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metaphors, analogues of what humans do. Again,

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it’s still important because what it’s saying is

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that whatever God is doing in these verses, this

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is what man does. So if at this point, all of the

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commentaries are kind of focused on it being an

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oath, so God raises his allegorical hand. But

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what it’s saying is that universally, and that

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would confirm that Romans do it and Greeks do it,

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and the whole world has some sort of sense of

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you’re raising your hand, you’re in a sense

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buying in, or maybe you’re making a commitment.

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Adam Mintz: Let me just ask you, is that the idea of one hand

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on the Bible and raising the other hand, does

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every country have that today, when you become

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the prime minister of England, do you raise your

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hand and put a hand on the Bible, or is that an

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American thing?

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Geoffrey Stern: I don’t know. I do believe that when I looked at

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the Wikipedia sources, it went back at least to

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medieval times.

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Adam Mintz: So the answer is yes, everybody has it.

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Geoffrey Stern: Yeah, but. But I think what it was was putting

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one’s hand on a sword, putting one’s hand on

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something temporal, something tactile. But again,

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that seems to be the universal part of it. As I

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said, Exodus, the book that we’re reading now is

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almost a study in hand motions. We’re focus on

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this particular one. But there’s no question the

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hand motions were a language in and of itself.

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Adam Mintz: Last week, Moshe, his hand, it becomes leprous,

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right? And the. The stick becomes a snake.

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There’s a lot of that stuff there. The hocus

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pocus is about hand motions.

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Geoffrey Stern: Yeah, yeah. Now, you mentioned Abraham having his

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the king of Sodom, and they were the fights

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between the kings. Abraham said to the king of Sodom

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in Genesis 14:22, I swear is the translation. But

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what it really says is, I lift up my hand to God

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Most High, Creator of heaven and earth. So here

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too, it’s Pre Sinai. And the king of Sodom

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understood what he was doing. It’s pretty

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universal. What’s interesting is how Ramban

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understands it. And Ramban brings Rashi. He

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brings all of the other commentaries. And then he

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says something fascinating. He says, but Onkelos

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said, I have lifted my hand in prayer before the

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eternal the intent of Abraham’s words coming,

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according to Onkolos, is, I have prayed to God

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with my hands spread forth toward heaven. That is

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kind of fascinating. And of course, that’s right

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in line with the direction that I was looking to

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go, which is, if this is truly a modality of

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expression, why don’t we express ourselves with

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it more? He goes on to say that Abraham was

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declaring things to be sacred to him. Is called

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in Hebrew, lifting of a hand. He uses, Rabbi, the

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language of sacrifices, of when, for instance,

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the farmer brings the tanufah, the first crop, he

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raises it up. That’s what he sees you doing. When

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you raise your hand, not so much swear, but

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transferring from you to God or from God to the

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people of Israel.

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Adam Mintz: You could say that raising your hand in sacrifice

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is a form of prayer.

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Geoffrey Stern: Well, absolutely. Since prayer took over the

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place of sacrifice, there’s a total segue from

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one into the other. But according to this study

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that I quoted before, there is one scholar named

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Strine who literally says that the Nasir Yadenu,

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the raising up of the hand, is actually the

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transfer of property. And of course, what did I

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think of immediately, Rabbi? I thought of Kidyin

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Chalipan. Those are the selling, the chametz.

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Well, the chomets. Or at a wedding.

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Adam Mintz: Yeah, at a wedding day, for those.

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Geoffrey Stern: Of you who have been at an Orthodox wedding, you

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go to the chatan tisch, you see something very

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strange. The rabbi will take a pen, he’ll take a

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handkerchief, he’ll take something that has

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material presence. He’ have the groom hold it

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high and transfer it to him, giving him the

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ability to marry them. Or in the case that you’re

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talking about, Rabbi, of selling the chomets,

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being able to be your agent to sell the chomets.

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But again, I think that’s a very pictorial analog

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to what we’re talking about. You raise your hand,

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you’re transferring something. Right.

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Adam Mintz: That’s very, very interesting. Right. And it’s

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symbolic, because whatever you’re raising, the

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pen, the handkerchief, whatever you’re raising is

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not the value of what it represents, either at

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the Chassen’s Tisch or for selling your chomets,

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your chometz is worth a lot more than the

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handkerchief. But that’s a symbolic raising.

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Geoffrey Stern: Yes, absolutely. And so from that perspective,

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we’re mimicking what God did here. This

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transference. In Psalms 141:2, it says, Take my

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prayer as an offering of incense, my upraised

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hands as an evening sacrifice. So there it

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literally combines this raising up of the hand

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and giving a sacrifice. I think, Rabbi, I’m a big

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believer in the ability of our ritual to preserve

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the depth of our tradition. When we wash our

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hands before eating bread, we go Al Natilat Yedayim.

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Correct me if I’m wrong. The customers to raise

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one hand.

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Adam Mintz: That’s correct. Some people say beforehand, su

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yidechem kodesh, raise your hands. That’s the

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same idea.

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Geoffrey Stern: So I don’t know whether I’m contradicting myself

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and that we do actually have hand motions. We

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just don’t recognize them or not. But let’s go

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with it because it’s true, we do say that. And

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when we do so, that’s al natilat yadayim, taking

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the hands. When we take a lulav and an etrog, we

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use the same word, al netilat lulav. And there

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too, the motion is raising it up. So I do think

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we have this vocabulary, non verbal vocabulary in

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our tradition. But maybe we over.

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Adam Mintz: I want to say that when it comes to the al netilat

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yedayim, al netilat lulav, the raising might be a

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show of its importance, but that too could.

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Geoffrey Stern: Be part of the language of raising one’s hand,

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right?

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Adam Mintz: No, that. That’s correct, but I’m just saying

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it’s a little different. It’s not. It’s not quite

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prayer. It’s us. Hey, here’s the lulav. I want to

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pick it up. This is the important thing of the

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day.

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Geoffrey Stern: So this gentleman who did this 160 page study on

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the nonverbal language of hands, he actually

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gives us a bunch of stuff. He says, you’re

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exposing your hand, you are surrendering. We’ve

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seen that already in the Gemara. In Shabbat, when

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things are bad, you surrender as a slave. This

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exposing of the hands, then there is attracting

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attention, like waving your hand. But again, I

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think that means the important part of it, you’re

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saying something is important, the desire to

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interact with the other, that displays the

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relationship between parties, suggesting

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subservience on the part of the one performing

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the gesture, a gesture of approach. So really, I

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think the more we think about it, what of that

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vocabulary that we do have actually is very

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profound. It connotes so many different things.

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And I think that becomes fascinating. In Psalm

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63, it says, I bless you all my life. I lift up

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my hands, invoking your name. But in Berachot, and

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this is kind of interesting, Rab Eliezer says,

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what is the meaning of that which is written? So

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I will bless you as I live to your name. I will

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raise My hands, quoting the Psalm verse that I

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just did, he says, so I will bless you as I live,

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refers to the recitation of the shema, and to your

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name I will raise my hands refers to the Amidah

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prayer. So in fact, there is another reference to

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raising hands in the Talmud, and it actually

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associates raising one’s hands with prayer. With

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prayer, the penultimate prayer of the Amidah.

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Adam Mintz: So actually, that’s explicit, right? We talked

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about all these things that are suggestive that

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that thing from the Gemara is actually explicit,

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that raising your hands is a form of prayer. I

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mean, people who go like this, right? It’s also

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gratitude, right? When the quarterback scores a

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touchdown, he goes like this. I know, because

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that’s what touchdown is. But it’s also

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gratitude, right? You raise your hands to God is

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gratitude.

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Geoffrey Stern: But again, getting back to that prayer emoji that

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in our youth we would have considered very

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Christian, I would suggest that if when you’re

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giving your drasha, this Shabbat, you said

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something particularly empowering and everybody

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went up with their hands and they went like this,

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you would be taken a little bit aback. You’d say,

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am I? Am I?

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Adam Mintz: We don’t do that kind of stuff.

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Geoffrey Stern: We don’t. But maybe we did and maybe we should.

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But anyway, here’s this interesting one. I said a

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second ago that when you raise your hand, you’re

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exposing it. In Isaiah 1:15, it says, and when

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you lift up your hands, I will turn my eyes away

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from you through you pray at length. I will not

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listen. Your hands are stained with crime. So

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what he’s saying is, you can raise your hands all you

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want if there’s damn blood on your hands. As

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Shakespeare would say, out, out, damn spot.

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You’re not going to go anywhere. So true. I think

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it really shows that what you’re also saying when

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you raise your hands is you have nothing to hide.

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You’re not armed, but you also have no stain on

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you. As I said before, the Psalms are full of

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this stuff. In Psalms 28, it says, Listen to my

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plea for mercy when I cry out to you, when I lift

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my hand towards your inner sanctuary. I would

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think, Rabbi, that most of us students of

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rabbinic literature are more aware of Esa eni

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raising up our eyes than raising up our hands.

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I’m just making a guess. Am I wrong here?

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Adam Mintz: No, for sure. But that’s also a form of prayer.

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Where will my. Where will my help come from?

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Prayer raising is a form of prayer. Maybe they’re

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Related Nitilat lulav Because maybe the reason

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raising is a form of prayer is because that’s a

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form of showing it’s important and you’re

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important by referencing God somehow.

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Geoffrey Stern: It’s a whole language. It’s a whole beautiful

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language. And I stand, as much as we find in

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these texts, I stand by my original suggestion

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that we deemphasize it. And there’s a lot of

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richness there that we can rediscover and that

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can empower us and enrich us. You know, in

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Chronicles 2, 6, 13, it says he stood with them,

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kneeling in front of the whole congregation of

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Israel. He spread forth his hands to heaven. This

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is about Solomon. We see it once a year in Yom

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Kippur where we prostrate ourselves during the

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alenu. I will argue that kneeling, bending the

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knees, raising the hand was a whole, whole

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language that enables us not only to understand

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the text that we read day about God making the

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oath, but also many things in our tradition.

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Adam Mintz: So let’s talk about that for a second. Actually,

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bowing down is the opposite of raising hands,

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right? Because raising hands is up and bowing

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down is down. You would almost say that bowing

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down is the other kind of prayer, which is a sign

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of humility. We bow before you. Raising hands is

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a sign of kind of, you know, we’re there to raise

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our hands to God.

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Geoffrey Stern: So I just love this discussion because what we’re

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doing is we’re just diving into the language,

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this non verbal language. And what I would say to

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you is when we start the Amida, we go Baruch

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attah (and we bow) and then Adonai, we raise up. There’s the

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bending of the legs and then there’s God raises

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us up.

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Adam Mintz: That’s the explanation in the introduction to the

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Art Scroll. Consider Rabbi Saul Berman, who we

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know, whom we know very well, the successor of

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Rabbi Riskin in Lincoln Square Synagogue. He

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wrote the introduction. You know, there’s a

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tradition that at the beginning of the Shmona

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esre’, we take three steps forward and at the end of

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the Amida, we take three steps backwards. He

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wrote the entire introduction about those three

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steps forward and the three steps backward, how

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that’s important. We approach God and then we

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walk away from God. So it’s with our feet. You’re

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talking about with our hands. And then we talk

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about bowing down with our knees. And then we

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approach God with our feet and we walk away from

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God. We say, by the way, at the end of Kaddish, O

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seshalom bim ramab, we walk away. Isn’t that so

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interesting. We walk away. You want to go further

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In Bowie Bishalom, in Lecha Dodi, we also turn

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around, right? We turn around towards the door.

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We bow towards the door. That’s so weird. But

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that’s very important. It’s non verbal, we would

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say nonverbal communication, really.

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Geoffrey Stern: I mean, when you finish the Oseh shalom, you go,

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oseh shalom. You go to one side, you go to the

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other side, and then you go forward. During

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Kiddush Levana, we really extenuate that and we

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go, shalom aleichem. Aleichem Sholem. And you

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know, in Islam, the most holy thing that’s done

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five times a day, they literally say, salaam

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alaikum. And they go to each side. There is this

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rich tradition that we have not scrubbed

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completely. And I dare to say the discussion that

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we’re having, the discussion, the intro that

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Berman gave, you could have a whole class on

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Tefillah and try to rediscover and re emphasize

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the nonverbal language, the physical language,

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and see where it takes you. I think it’s

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absolutely wonderful. So besides the book that I

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quoted at the beginning, I found an article. It

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was actually in, I think, the Jerusalem Post.

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It’s called World of the Sages: Hand motions during

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Prayer by Levi Cooper. And in it, the first thing

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that he does is he talks about the Hasidim to a

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large degree, reintroduced bodily motion. He says

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that Rabbi Schneer Zalman of Ladi, who I think,

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was he the predecessor of Chabad?

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Adam Mintz: He’s the first Chabad rabbi.

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Geoffrey Stern: He was the first Chabad rabbi. He used to bang

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his hands on the wall so fervently during prayers

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that they had to pad the wall. Now, I was very

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influenced by Rav Shmuel Deshon, who is a

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stoliner, Karliner Hasid. And in their early

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Hasidim, they were accused of doing flips during

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davening. But even till today, you go in there,

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never in the history of the Karliners has the rabbi

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ever said, be quiet, we’re trying to pray here.

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When you go in there, you can’t hear yourself

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think. It’s so loud. They are screaming. They

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hold their hands to their ear so they can hear

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themselves even better. It’s a whole different

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form of prayer that I think many of us would find

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strange.

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Adam Mintz: But it’s verbal.

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Geoffrey Stern: That’s verbal. There’s no question. The flips,

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not so much. They’re hitting the wall, not so

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much. And of course, the detractors of the

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Hasidim came out very much against this and he

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talks about Maimonides’ son who wanted to

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return to original prayer styles where there was

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much more gesturing and movement along those

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lines. And then this is the closest I’ve seen

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that come to suggesting maybe why, maybe why this

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kind of disappeared. Some halaches suggest that

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prayer with outstretched arms in the manner of

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Gentile prayer and therefore should be avoided.

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This was a teshuvah from Beer Sheva of all places

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complacent Poland, Italy and others. Modern

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scholars have demonstrated that a serious issue

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is at stake here. Christians saw Moses

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outstretched arms as a prefiguration of

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crucifixion. This explains the reticence of

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Jewish artists to portray this biblical incident,

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while their Christian counterparts display no

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such hesitation. Then he goes on to say, thus we

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see that cultural environs have impacted our

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prayer norms. Even the suggestion of Rabbi

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Abraham, Maiminedies’ Son calling for outstretched arms while

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making requests of God may have been influenced

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by his milieu. There is no precedent in Jewish

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sources for distinguishingly singling out

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requests when it comes to hand gestures. In all

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likelihood, such a distinction has its roots in

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Muslim ritual.

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Adam Mintz: That’s so interesting.

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Geoffrey Stern: I think that there is no question that either as

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a form of doing not what the other does or

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letting the other take certain of our rituals and

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therefore they became no longer comfortable for

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us to do it, or maybe just not being open and

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exposed to how different religions and cultures

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express themselves spiritually for whatever

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reason, I think the consensus is that there has

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been a pullback from physical gestures,

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specifically in reference to prayer. And I think

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that opens up all sorts of possibilities.

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Adam Mintz: I think that’s great. This is a great topic and

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it’s good to find. This is a hard parsha. It’s

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great to find this topic in this parasha.

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Geoffrey Stern: I agree. And getting back to the president, I

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hope that he gives an oath, but I hope that he

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also opens up his hand in purity and joins us and

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moves with us and leads us. It’s a profound

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message for ourselves, but it’s also a profound

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message for our leaders. Leaders. And so, you

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know, let’s just hope and pray with our hands

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just a little more.

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Adam Mintz: We’ll say amen. Everyone says amen.

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Geoffrey Stern: Have a great trip.

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Adam Mintz: Shabbat shalom, everybody. And we look forward to

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seeing you next week.

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Geoffrey Stern: Shabbat Shalom. Great talking with.

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